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Alt reality tag
Please do not add this tag to all articles related to Enterprise. The show is not considered an "alternate reality". -- sulfur 20:09, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * The events of the show are part of both the "Prime reality" and the "Alternate reality" of the new film - hence "multiple realities." I'm not trying to slight Enterprise at all.--98.204.140.83 20:11, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * Since the timeline split well after the events of Enterprise, they are not considered part of the alternate reality. -Angry Future Romulan 20:12, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't follow the logic. If the timeline split in 2233, then all events before the split are shared by both the prime and alternate universes - they are literally shared by each of those separate universes.--98.204.140.83 20:14, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

The new timeline begins in 2233. Therefore, everything before that is considered to be part of the "prime" timeline. -- sulfur 20:17, May 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * There are two possible instantiations of the new timeline, both of which result in the events of Enterprise taking place in both realities:


 * 1. Two parallel universes exist, the "Alternate reality" and the "Prime reality". Prior to 2233, both are identical.  An incident in the Prime reality causes the Narada to travel between universes to the Alternate reality, where it arrives March 22, 2233.  Because no such ship arrived in the Prime reality, the two timelines cease to unfold identically.


 * 2. Only the Prime reality exists. At the moment of the Narada's arrival, a parallel universe is created. That universe - the Alternate reality - has both a past and future, created (four-dimensionally) at that instant. We see the future begin to unfold in the film.  The past created by the incident is identical to the past of the prime timeline.--98.204.140.83 20:27, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Not to mention the fact that nobody wants to go back and add a tag to EVERY SINGLE ARTICLE that mentions something happening before 2233. -Angry Future Romulan 20:18, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm willing to, though it may take awhile.--98.204.140.83 20:27, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

While your logic is valid, the purpose of the tag on Memory Alpha is only to designate things that happened seperate from the prime timeline. -Angry Future Romulan 20:39, May 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * I see. I apologize.  Is there any likelihood of a change of that policy?  Where would I submit the question for consideration? --98.204.140.83 20:50, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Some of the pages I tagged with the "Multiple realities" banner include parallel realities shown within Enterprise itself. I presume I wouldn't be amiss in replacing the tag there? --98.204.140.83 20:51, May 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * My understanding is that would be okay. I just re-added the banner to the article myself. -Angry Future Romulan 20:55, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * I still see no reason why the alt realities tag belongs on pages like Malcolm Reed none of that article has anything related to alt realities or parallel universes. &mdash; Morder (talk) 21:36, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think I know what is going on here...I don't think I agree with it but will leave it for now... &mdash; Morder (talk) 21:38, May 4, 2010 (UTC)