Talk:Goroth's starship

Goroth's ship
Goroth's ship is not a re-use of the Wysanti/Aksani/Hazari ship. The model was first seen as a Hazari shuttle in, then as the Wysanti starship in and finally as the Aksani vessel in. Goroth's starship is a newly created model, although it has a similar shape. --Jörg 18:29, 8 December 2006 (UTC)


 * While I agree they are the same shape, I just saw the Wysanti starship for the first time (in a long time) and immediately though of Goroth's ship design. Are we not sure that the cgi wasn't a "modification", which is how I stated it, versus "new"? I don't think it is impossible to manipulate the CGI mesh of the former to get the latter. --Alan del Beccio 18:32, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

I took a look at screenshots I took for an article about the re-uses some time ago and read my article again (it's not up at ex-astris yet...) and I can say that I'm 100% sure that it's a completely new model. I think it's impossible to turn the original model into Goroth's ship. Views of the ship were displayed in the Fact Files and can be seen here. Goroth's ship does look different, has various different structures, a completely different surface and an underside that couldn't possibly have been part of the original model (launching the Klingon escape pods etc). While it is a really weird design for a Klingon ship, I'm sure it is a new model. I wish Bernd would put that article online (Are you reading, Bernd)... ;-) --Jörg 18:41, 8 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Well I still think it is worth noting the striking, if not superficial similiarities between the two designs. Also, I'm probably going to move this discussion to talk:Goroth's starship if we are done here. --Alan del Beccio 18:48, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

To both I say "Sure!" ;-) --Jörg 19:01, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Escape pods
Maybe it's worth noting that Goroth's ship posessed escape pods, which was indicated during ENT season 1 as something that Klingons would never install (preferring to die in battle). Perhaps we can infer that the ship is not of Klingon design/construction?--65.93.16.142 09:06, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Homage?
Is it just me, or does this design seem rather similar to the FASA K-26? http://home.comcast.net/~ststcsolda/klingons/K-26/K-26_art2.gif and http://home.comcast.net/~ststcsolda/klingons/K-26/K-26.html, for example. 199.172.198.122 05:09, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I see some similarities in the basic shape, but that's about it. --From Andoria with Love 23:09, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Also remember that the CG model was not created for this episode. It was used as the Hazari shuttle, Wysanti starship, and Aksani vessel before being used as a Klingon vessel. The model was created 4 years before the Enterprise episode aired, and before Enterprise was even conceived. --OuroborosCobra talk 23:18, 15 August 2008 (UTC)