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Is this Latin? Does anyone know what it means?-Rebelstrike2005 18:50, 22 Feb 2005 (GMT)

LOL!!! No that is not Latin, but it should be. The correct words are "AUDENTES FORTUNA IUVAT" which means "Fortune favors the bold". Davok

I thought it looked familiar.


 * I highly doubt it has anything at all to do with "Fortune favours the bold". How you can get the last word in particular, I have no idea. "Astra", for one, means, "stars" (ex astris, scientia, anyone?). "Aedestes" translates "house" or "home", but I can't get a translation for the phrase as a whole. Possibly "At home amongst the stars" or similar? I would imagine some possible connection with STS-107, but can't find anything on the web. -- Michael Warren | Talk 19:19, 22 Feb 2005 (GMT)


 * "Aedestes" might also be a plural imperative, meaning "come" or "go" (as in "Adeste fideles", "O come all ye faithful"), but if so it's misspelled. "Formlena" isn't in my Latin dictionary -- no idea what they might be aiming for there.  My wife (a former Classics major) says that it's probably just bad Latin; the consonant cluster in the middle, she says, doesn't even follow Latin phonology. --Josiah Rowe 02:09, 23 Feb 2005 (GMT)

A source for the image would be good... -- Michael Warren | Talk 19:19, 22 Feb 2005 (GMT)


 * Mike Okuda had this to say on TrekBBS: -- Captain Mike K. Bartel 03:29, 23 Feb 2005 (GMT)


 * ...the motto on the Starfleet emblem is "Ad astra per aspera." I borrowed it from a plaque at the base of Launch Complex 34 at Cape Canaveral, the site of the Apollo 1 tragedy. I used the same motto on an emblem I designed with Bill Foster of Mission Control to memorialize the crews of Apollo 1, Challenger 51L, and Columbia 107.


 * The motto on the Columbia patch (first seen in "Home"), is "Audentes fortuna juvat," or "fortune favors the bold." The same motto appears on a version of a patch that I designed for NASA's Exploration Systems Directorate, also known as Project Constellation. (The motto appears only on an "internal use" version; the "official" version does not have it.)
 * In that case, I stand corrected. -- Michael Warren | Talk 13:54, 23 Feb 2005 (GMT)

So where did this image come from? Because that is definitely not audentes fortuna juvat. I am pretty sure it is not even real Latin. -- Steve 06:20, 23 Feb 2005 (GMT)
 * I have tracked it to here. It is one fans' recreation. As such, it should be removed, or replaced with one displaying the correct text. Note that Rebelstrike2005 cropped the image to remove the creator's credit, which complicated matters. -- Michael Warren | Talk 13:54, 23 Feb 2005 (GMT)