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What's Janeway's problem in Thirty Days?
Wow. A demotion in rank AND 30 days in "solitary confinement" for violating a direct order, even though in the end no harm was done to anyone at all (except requiring repairs to the Delta Flyer)? Let's review some previous major violations by cast members on Star Trek shows, and the punishment they received (I mean formal discipline, not a "talking-to"). I'm not even going to include captians, since captains on Star Trek get away with anything. I am going off memory here so please correct me if I remember any of these wrong.

•	Data intentionally violates the Prime Directive in TNG: Pen Pals. Discipline: NONE.

•	Data disobeys a direct order in TNG: Unification, Part II. Discipline: praise from Picard for not “blindly following orders.”

•	Worf leaves the ship without permission and kills a leading Klingon politician for revenge in TNG: Reunion. Discipline: reprimand in his record.

•	Worf violates orders, leading to the death of an informer crucial to Starfleet’s intelligence efforts during a WAR in DS9: Change of Heart. Discipline: reprimand in his record (yes, Sisko mentioned that if this or that weren't the case there might have been a court martial, but the bottom line is there wasn't one).

•	Ezri Dax steals a shuttlecraft (just as Paris does here) and refuses a direct order to return (just as Paris does here) in DS9: Penumbra. Discipline: NONE.

•	Miles O’Brien disobeys a direct order in DS9: Hippocratic Oath. Discipline: none.

And it's not like Janeway is just always way more strict than Picard or Sisko:

•	Tuvok and Torres each disobey orders in VOY: Prime Factors (do they also violate the Prime Directive? I'm not sure). Discipline: NONE.

•	Seven of Nine disobeys a direct order in VOY: Prey, leading to the death of a life form. Discipline: confinement to the cargo bay (her quarters) for some indeterminate period. She’s never put in the brig AT ALL, much less solitary confinement, and after a while gets back the exact same duties she had before.

•	Suder confesses to MURDERING a crewmate for no reason in VOY: Meld. He gets thrown in the brig, but doesn't get "solitary confinement" (Tuvok visits him constantly, and it's not in an investigatory capacity since obviously there is no "mystery" to solve).

I mean, when Kirk is busted down to Captain, it's for STEALING A STARSHIP! And even that is a "wink wink nudge nudge" demotion, since it's clear that Kirk WANTS to be a captain again so he can command a ship. And is there ANY other mention in ANY other Star Trek show or movie about the Federation sentencing someone to "solitary confinement"? Federation prisons are typically referred to in terms that suggest they're really not so bad.

I know the answer to my question is just "they wanted to create drama" or "bad writing" or "both." But I just had to express my incredulity.

Yakikorosu 23:03, January 31, 2011 (UTC)