Memory Alpha:Pages for deletion/John Harrison

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Deletion rationale
This article is premature, as the film has not been released yet and per the spoiler policy we don't create in-universe articles until the film is officially released. This first nine minutes that has been released may yet be changed. 31dot (talk) 02:43, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

It has also been suggested that the name of this character is a pseudonym to hide who it actually is, as there to this point has not been a "John Harrison" in canon, and I believe Abrams has said the villain was from canon, did he not? 31dot (talk) 03:24, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

FWIW, StarTrek.com has a poll right now asking people who they think the character is, and this name isn't on the list. 31dot (talk) 10:28, December 14, 2012 (UTC)

Additions

 * Add Qo'noS (alternate reality) and Carol Marcus (alternate reality) to this list. -- sulfur (talk) 07:40, December 11, 2012 (UTC)

Discussion

 * Support. I don't believe for a second that's going to be the real name for the character, anyhow. I'd support deleting (or renaming) File:John Harrison, Starfleet uniform.jpg, too, until there's a definitive character name. - Aatrek  03:27, December 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Disagree. This is a brand new page about the recent developments made by TrekMovie.com about Eve's character of Carol Marcus in Star Trek Into Darkness and should not be deleted, but should be expanded on. http://trekmovie.com/2012/12/10/alice-eve-character-7-more-star-trek-into-darkness-characterstory-details-revealed-at-bad-robot-visit/
 * Support... kind of. I'm really feeling "whatever" about it, but we are talking about stuff that has been released to the press, whether it's deceptive or not. Policy is policy though. So... yeah, I'm not a tie-breaker. I would feel like the Qo'noS and Carol Marcus pages are valid, but the John Harrison one is not. StarSickTOG (talk) 08:08, December 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * According to Paramount  it's the characters real name => --Hiro 12:22, December 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Support. We literally know nothing about the character. Not his race, not his motives, we don't even know if he actually is a Starfleet officer or if he's just disguised as one. The page for Nero and other characters introduced in were not created until after the film was released. I suggest we do the same for characters from . --From Andoria with Love (talk) 10:07, December 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * (to the anon user)Of course Paramount would say that, the James Bond people (and the actress herself) kept insisting one actress was not the character she actually was until the movie came out.
 * (to William5000) That, as Sulfur said, is precisely why we shouldn't have an article yet, among other reasons. We don't know anything about this character yet to put in an article.31dot (talk) 10:30, December 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * Add my delete to the pages Sulfur suggested. 31dot (talk) 10:32, December 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete pages, replace with redirects to the film article for now, restore history if and when it's needed (read:forgotten about and restored the first time one of these is merged with another page). - 18:34, December 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * This sounds good to me. I'll put my vote here. StarSickTOG (talk) 05:10, December 12, 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete. -- Renegade54 (talk) 19:30, December 11, 2012 (UTC)
 * Support. It is for the pure curiosity of the wiki goer only and shall be changed post movie debute. ZackVad (talk) 05:26, December 13, 2012 (UTC)ZackVad


 * Regarding - Paramount's UK twitter account confirmed the character today.  Don't know if that makes a difference. -  Aatrek  10:10, December 14, 2012 (UTC)

It doesn't make a difference as we only have an article when the film comes out. It could (and should) be mentioned in the article about the film, though. 31dot (talk) 10:16, December 14, 2012 (UTC)


 * Is there a way to put like a site-wide banner up or something regarding STID info/images? Might be easier than having to follow up on everything (like the newly-posted File:Nibiru.jpg, for which I've already fixed the tags, etc.) after the fact, or pre-protecting pages before they're created. - Aatrek  13:57, December 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Sadly, we tried that last time. It really seemed to have no effect at all. People don't read what they don't want to see. -- sulfur (talk) 14:06, December 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Concerning other potential articles and images, it might be sensible to discuss/allow speedy deletion, though. If the reason for not having those articles is (among other reasons) the avoidance of spoilers, it's strange to have a very public discussion each time. ;) -- Cid Highwind (talk) 17:13, December 17, 2012 (UTC)

Admin resolution

 * All three pages deleted as per policy. Temporary protection has been put on them that will automatically expire on May 17, 2013. This can be adjusted as (and if) required. -- sulfur (talk) 14:10, December 17, 2012 (UTC)