Talk:Steppenwolf

Were Steppenwolf referred to by name or their name visible in the movie (I don't recall so at the moment)? If not, I think this page needs to be deleted like we did with C.S. Forrester or Erik Satie, so we just keep the article on Magic Carpet Ride. Kennelly 20:21, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * As per Roy Orbison, on the soundtrack. -- Sulfur 20:24, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * In contrast to Erik Satie or C.S. Forrester you hear the voices of the guys of Steppenwolf and Roy Orbison, which makes them just as canon as the names of pieces of classical music, only heard in Trek. Besides, they appear in the end credits of the movie. --Jörg 20:26, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Kind of get into that whole realm of "did we see Ingrid Bergman as María or just María" in For Whom the Bell Tolls in . --Alan del Beccio 20:30, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

First, my comment from the orbison page:Don't jump on me, but if he wasn't mentioned/seen/legible in-universe, I don't think this should be an in-universe article with cats and so on. It should be on the same level as Jerry Goldsmith for contributing to the movie soundtrack. Same goes with his credit mentioning, this IMO would merit him exactly the same status as other production staff. However, the argument that we heard their voices is a good one and convinces me.

I think, as we saw the movie explicitly portrayed as a movie in-universe, articles on both actress Ingrid Bergmann identified visually and the character Maria identified verbally are legitimate. Kennelly 20:48, 26 January 2007 (UTC)


 * The difference between Goldsmith and those singers is that Goldsmith worked on the movie soundtrack and that Orbison died even before that movie was released. The production staff chose to include his song in the movie, which won't make him a man working for Star Trek, but rather an hommage to the singer. Would we have this conversation if all the songs from Elvis would have been heared without mentionning him ? - From Cardassia with pain 21:20, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * What difference does it make if it were Elvis or Roy? Roy was no slouch, neither were Steppenwolf. --Alan del Beccio 21:23, 26 January 2007 (UTC)