Talk:Kruge

Kruge's pet
You know, people on this site really don't know how to get their facts together...Kruge did not have a targ on the bridge, that was not a targ, it wasn't even established in script what it was...yeesh!
 * Looks a lot like a targ to me. What makes you say that it wasn't a targ?  It may not have been established at the time what it was, but subsequent canon points to it being a targ. --McC 03:06, 23 Feb 2005 (GMT)
 * No, it wasn't a targ, it looked nothing like a pig whatsoever -- in fact, it was more canine in character than anything else. Either way, it was called "the Beast" in the script, so I'm sorry, but there is no canon that exists, which suggests that it is a targ. --Alan 03:26, 23 Feb 2005 (GMT)
 * Touche. http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/gallery/lifeforms1.htm -- Here is a link to the puppet itself.  There's some conjecture here (scroll down a bit to the "Kruge's Pet in STIII" headings) that suggests it might be a Romulan animal of some kind, for what it's worth.  -- McC 17:07, 23 Feb 2005 (GMT)
 * It may or may not be a targ (look at the vast differences in size and appearance of the many different breed of dogs) but even if it isn't, what makes anyone think would it be a Romulan animal. I'm sure targs are not the only animal native to Kronos.--T smitts 21:49, 29 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Kruge's nobility
There is no evidence that Kruge was descended from any sort of nobility. I assumed his subordinates addressing him as "my lord" as a sign of respect for a superior officer.
 * Actually the script describes "Battle Commander Kruge" as "a Klingon War Lord of handsome but frightening presence, and relative youth." So take that it as you will. --Alan 05:27, 21 Oct 2005 (UTC)

No aristocracy in Klingon Culture?
The article claims "there is never any evidence of aristocracy in Klingon culture" but DS9 episodes involving Klingons refute this, especially "Once more unto the breach." Klingon Great Houses are aristocratic lines. Descendants of Kahless are considered to be "of the blood" (though Martok, a commoner not "of the blood" was able to become Chancellor according to their laws). 76.98.206.87fulltimeD


 * You're right. I removed that bit. But the rest - about the form of address never being used again - is correct IIRC.–Cleanse ( talk 22:47, November 12, 2011 (UTC)

Address
The background information states that "This form of address among Klingons is never seen again." In Star Trek: Generations, the word used to address Kruge, joHwI' ("my lord") is used to address the Duras sisters by their crew. What is the best way to implement this data? --wa&#39; DaHoHchugh chotwI&#39; SoH, wa&#39;&#39;uy&#39; DaHoHchugh charghwI&#39; SoH, Hoch DaHoHchugh Qun SoH. 21:40, April 25, 2012 (UTC)