Talk:Starfleet Academy alumni

Mitchell's class?
Gary Mitchel in the class of 2264? He should only be, at most, a few years behind Kirk. --Emperorkalan 21:42, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Mitchell was born in 2242 according to his bio-screen seen in which stated him as being 23 years old at the time (2265). However, his Academy years were never established so I think any info regarding the years he attended the Academy should be removed. --From Andoria with Love 22:05, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

I'll check, but I'm pretty sure the ages on the screen for both Mitchel and Dehner were their ages at the time they (last) took the ESP test. Kirk specifically said he's known Mitchel for 15 years, and Mitchel had first heard of Kirk from an upperclassman about a course Kirk was teaching at the Academy. Kirk may not have been being precise, so it may not be exactly 15 years (in fact, it couldn't have been unless Kirk had been teaching while a plebe), but it's still in the ballpark of "more than 10 years". I don't think he should be removed, but he should be moved to Uncertain, with the limits of the "window" noted. --Emperorkalan 23:00, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmm... it would make a lot more sense if that was his age at the time that document was written up. I can't believe I never though of that before. Anyways, agreed with the "uncrertain" label. --From Andoria with Love 16:12, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Adding some
I've moved Mitchell to uncertain, and added a few officers, either in "Uncertain", or if the birth year is known, birthyear plus 22 years (which seems to be the standard: see Checkov, Sulu, Uhura). --Emperorkalan 20:28, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
 * However, it's possible that some of these officers didn't go to the Academy and got a commission some other way (some sort of futuristic OCS or ROTC?). The main point was only to include officers who we know went to the/a Starfleet Academy.--Tim Thomason 00:14, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

PNA
I've PNA'd this article for citation. I'm very uncomfortable with just going by the conjectured graduation dates as Emperorkalan did above. Even if we know the birth year, we can't be certain that +22 will get us the graduation year (not least because that's a formula entirely unsupported by canon). For example, how many times did Wesley Crusher try to get into the Academy? (failed exam in "Coming of Age" and had to wait another year, missed his ride to the Academy in "Menage a Troi," etc.) Also, even if we have a graduation year listed in a resource like the Chronology or the Encyclopedia, if it too rests purely on conjecture, I wouldn't consider that a valid cite either. I'd rather have a long list of "graduation year unknown" than a bad list with bogus dates. Starfleetjedi 08:34, 30 August 2008 (UTC)