Talk:Luna

I think this page should also have a picture of the moon from Star Trek 5 with the Enterprise in front of it. --TOSrules 23:08, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

Mirror Universe picture
I don't know, if the picture of the Terran soldier planting the imperial flag on Luna is so fitting in the Luna-article. --BlueMars 15:37, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

Where do the 2039 date for first human settlement and Tycho City-as-capital come from? -- DarkHorizon 08:45, 9 Jan 2004 (PST)


 * Seems to be from the Star Charts, again, together with the population size and the list of "points of interest". -- Cid Highwind 04:50, 10 Jan 2004 (PST)


 * Some of these info are from the Star Charts, but if i remember well Riker said something about the Lake Amstrong and New Berlin in First Contact. And Also about the population -- User 81.53.187.29 NOTE - I've uploaded the moon's page before you said not to use info from the Star Charts...

It is a commonly accepted fact that there is actually another, much smaller natural satellite orbiting the earth. I am unaware of the actual nature of this object, but have read significant details about it in scientific journals and magazines. Should this article be edited to reflect that fact?
 * I believe you are referring to the asteroid Cruithne. This is not in fact a natural satellite, but a body that shares the Earth's orbit, a co-orbital. It does not orbit the Earth itself. The Moon is the only natural satellite of the Earth, because it does orbit the Earth. -- Michael Warren | Talk 14:42, 14 Feb 2005 (GMT)

Sorry, no. It has been proven that there is at least three natural satallites in orbit of Earth. So Earth has three moons at least.
 * Evidence, please, anon user? Since reference material directly contradicts you, I sincerely doubt your claim. -- Michael Warren | Talk 05:15, 23 Mar 2005 (EST)

Armstrong's Quote
Currently, the page reads Neil Armstrong's famous quote as "One small step for man...". But now, they have analized it with state of the art equpiment, and are saying it was said as "One small step for a man...". I just wanted to get approval before I began to screw with a famous quote. Opinions?"--CaptainCaca 21:11, 1 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Snopes says otherwise. . He didn't say "a man." --Bp 02:10, 17 January 2007 (UTC)


 * That Snopes article was apparently last updated in 2004. The more recent news story from October 2006 was that computer programmer Peter Shann Ford used new software to analyze the NASA audio and determined that Armstrong did indeed say "a man"    Then again, it's not as if the Ford's thing is definitive, either, so as far as this article goes, perhaps its best to hedge bets by briefly describing the debate about the quote's exact wording. --TommyRaiko 03:11, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The quote is heard in O'Donnell's dream (from unenhanced archival footage) as "one small step for man," so I'd say as far as the Trek universe is concerned, that's what he said.--Tim Thomason 03:20, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Names
I've removed the following list of various names for the moon:
 * The Moon
 * Luna
 * Sol IIIa
 * La Lune
 * Der Mond
 * The Lunar Colonies
 * Selene
 * Månen
 * Kuu

The first two are covered at the beginning of the article. The Lunar Colonies is not another name for the moon, it's an establishment on the moon. And the rest of the names are real-world/non-canon. --From Andoria with Love 01:43, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Important!
The Planet which theoretically collided with Earth was named "Orpheus". Check into it, I saw a Nova documentry on it a few years ago.
 * Since Nova is not canon, I'd hardly call this "important" for the article. --OuroborosCobra talk 17:17, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Heh. At first I hadn't a clue as to what was being discussed. Anyhow in the interest of clarity, non-canon Orpheus is a hypothetical protoplanet which can be read about here. Personally I find the theory altogether unconvincing, although I acknowledge the possibility. ~ anonymous (as always), 12 Feb 2010

Are these stats canon?
Are the stats in the sidebar box for the moon from a canon source, or are they from Wikipedia or somewhere else? -- Renegade54 14:12, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


 * They are not canon and should be removed as in other articles, like Mars74.204.40.46 03:31, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Apollo 13
I think someone should mention Apollo 13 in the history section of this article, it's just too important to not mention.


 * MA catalogs canon information only - see and  policies. So unless the mission got mentioned in an episode or movie, it doesn't belong here. All real-world info can be found in the wikipedia article, linked at the bottom. – Cleanse 02:12, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Luna?
Why is this not simply called Moon? I mean I know that Luna is the Latin word for it - but I have never heard anyone on Star Trek refer to the Moon as Luna- as in "oh, Chakotay, let's take a lunalight sail on Lake George". If it needs to be distinguished from other satellites then at least it should be called Earth's Moon. Luna is just wrong and awkward.– Distantlycharmed 04:24, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Because what you propose would limit this encyclopedia to little more than an Earth-centric viewpoint, versus a universe-wide viewpoint, and would thus conflict with the existing article for moon, which is obviously about more than just the one. --Alan 04:36, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Err...yeah, that's why I suggested renaming the page to Earth's Moon in order to distinguish it from the generic term moon. – Distantlycharmed 04:39, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Uh, because Luna is still valid, and canon... --Alan 04:42, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Uh, so what? What's wrong with Earth's Moon? It sounds better and is more appropriate. I've heard that everytime they refer to the moon (on Earth). I just dont get this insistence on keeping it Luna - as if the term was interchangeably used and understood by everyone as meaning Earth's Moon. No one calls it Luna. Have you heard anyone walk around and casually call the moon Luna - even in canon? It's just awkward. – Distantlycharmed 04:50, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Jake calls it "Luna" in, and makes it clear that "the moon" is outdated on Earth. (Although Dorian Collins notes that the informal is still used by its inhabitants)– Cleanse 04:53, 28 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Well and Chakotay calls it Earth's Moon in and Janeway says moonlight sail on Lake George in . So there's that. – Distantlycharmed 04:57, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Neither of those is formal name formats. I could call Canada "America's northern neighbor," and that would be the same context as Chakotay, and that would not be renaming Canada. Janeway was talking about moonlight, which isn't even the moon at all. I'll bet they say "sunlight" at various points, but our article is still at Sol. --OuroborosCobra talk 05:00, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * And there's that: Earth's moon. Also, things like Lunar One colony and Lunaport are pretty good indicators that Luna is acceptable usage. --Alan 05:04, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * That would be the equivalent of renaming the article on Ganymede "One of Jupiter's Moon's." &mdash; Vince47 05:06, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Well I am glad you put in the re-direct, but I disagree that because place/station/port names contain the word Luna, it means that Luna is a perfectly fine terminology to use when referring to Earth's moon. You could go in there and use the Latin name for everything instead of the name that is generally used and say it's legit, but that's not how this works, as people will search for Earth's Moon and not its Latin name. And Vince, no it wouldn't, because Jupiter's moon is named and Earth's isn't. If Earth's moon had a name instead of being generically called moon, then this wouldn't even be an issue. ...– Distantlycharmed 05:19, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * I think what you are missing here, is that we are discussing Star Trek terminology, not "real world" terminology - ways of thought, whatever. In Star Trek...300 years in the future, Earth's moon does have a name: it's called "Luna", and is also sometimes called "Earth's moon", we favor the more pronounced...better defined terminology as per dialog and such, not personal preference. --Alan 05:31, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Um, I think I am aware that we are in a Star Trek wiki here, and I know what you are trying to say, but I just happen to disagree based on what I mentioned above. That's all. – Distantlycharmed 16:25, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Coming in a bit late in the game, but: I'm not sure what the problem is here. The moon itself is the name of the object. Luna is the name of the moon. We go by what an object is named. After all, we don't have the USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-D) at "The Federation's Flagship." We also don't have Ganymede at "Jupiter's Moon". You wouldn't suggest moving Sol to "Sol System's Star", would you? (Please say no.) What you're basically suggesting is that we move the article from it's canon given name to its description. That's a big no-no. :) --From Andoria with Love 04:33, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh lol. Sorry, I had forgotten about that - sure yeah you're right...:) But remember, Jupiter has 63 moons, so it would be kinda hard to say Jupiter's moon if you know you can pick between 63 of them. Earth only has one and I had never heard anyone in Star Trek call the moon Luna. I havent seen all of DS9 and apparently that kid did - so...anyway...the redirect was put there which is good. Cheerios...– Distantlycharmed 04:51, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Excerpt from http://ST-Minutiae.com/academy/literature329/546.txt - Jake: Oh... [you're] a Lunar Schooner. / Dorian: *grins* I haven't heard that in a long time. / Jake: I picked it up from my grandpa. Of course, he still calls Luna The Moon -- like it's the only one or something. ~ anonymous (as always), 12 Feb 2010

First Contact
Any reason as to why the Dorian Collins information is attributed to ? (Lieutenant Miller 23:21, March 24, 2010 (UTC))
 * It isn't. The two citations (FC and Valiant) are for the section.  Could probably be separated, though for clarity.--31dot 00:34, March 25, 2010 (UTC)

Removed
I removed:


 * In 2152, T'Pol hinted that Armstrong may not have been the first to walk on the Moon.

as it seemed to me that T'Pol was just yanking their chains. -Angry Future Romulan 17:12, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think that is for us to judge. I'd rather have the note, with a background note that regarding the possibility. --OuroborosCobra talk 17:45, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Eh, whatever, I'm not married to it. -Angry Future Romulan 17:50, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think the comment is OK. Maybe it could be reworded or a note added as Cobra suggested, but as they were discussing the moon it is valid for the article.--31dot 19:49, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

"Historical" sub-section: Out of place/unnecessary line?
The "Historical" sub-section ends with this line:


 * The USS Defiant (2370) passed Luna on its way to Earth in 2371. 

It seems out of place and unlike the other (longer and more noteworthy) passages in the section. I wonder if it's really notable enough to mention. There were probably other instances of ships flying by Luna, no? Does a consensus exist for retaining it?

--Cepstrum (talk) 11:26, November 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * To be honest, it would be better represented as an image, since that was one of the (not so many) times we actually saw something pass the moon. -- sulfur 11:29, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

My goodness, Sulfur: you are amazingly fast. (do you have super-powers or are there ten people using your account? hehe)

Anyway, two things:
 * 1) I did not realize it was one of the only times we saw a flyby of the moon. I'd have thought in some of the early movies or in ENT, when the various ships left Earth, they would have shown it. Another time I thought would've been when the Borg cube tried to attack Earth in.
 * 2) How does one go about requesting a screen cap of the referenced Defiant flyby? Ask Jörg? "Trekcore"? (or is it even allowed to obtain pics from such sites?) Or is there some "official" way of adding picture requests to some sort of queue? --Cepstrum  (talk) 15:51, November 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Gnomes. A plethora of gnomes.


 * You can wander through trekcore and see if you can find an appropriate image. If not, put a request in here. The more information, the better chance there is of getting the image. -- sulfur 15:58, November 19, 2010 (UTC)