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Dragon's Teeth post
I was wondering what the source of your claim you posted on the Dragon's Teeth article was; for entries which claim a reference to another work, we need a statement from the writers of the episode or other source that they indeed intended to draw such a reference. 31dot (talk) 01:40, April 14, 2013 (UTC)


 * -reply "You are quite right, I couldn't find any coroborating statement from the writers. I have alterd the entry to reflect this"

Unfortunately, without information that it is indeed a deliberate reference, such a passage cannot be in the article; as an encyclopedia we need evidence of any claims of similarity to other works. 31dot (talk) 15:08, April 14, 2013 (UTC)


 * -reply "understood, i have to go out now unfortunatly, but when i return, i will be happy to add a reference pointing to an online hagakure text, 80-90% of the text will match the passages from the episode. Would this evidence suffice?"


 * -reply "well, i guess not, as you have deleted it...."


 * -aditional "out of interest:

"There is something to be learned from a rainstorm. When meeting with a sudden shower, you try not to pet(sic) wet and run quickly along the road. But doing such things as passing under the eaves of houses, you still get wet. When you are resolved from the beginning, you will not be perplexed, though you still get the same soaking. " (page 14 paragrapgh 2, Hagakure)

"Meditation on inevitable death should be performed daily. Every day when one's body and mind are at peace, one should meditate upon being ripped apart by arrows, rifles, spears and swords, being carried away by surging waves, being thrown into the midst of a great fire, being struck by lightning, being shaken to death by a great earthquake, falling from thousand foot cliffs, dying of disease or committing seppuku at the death of one's master. And every day without fail one should consider himself as dead."

(page 73 paragraph 4, Hagakure)

http://www.kendo.org.uk/files/Hagakure.pdf

And from star trek:

""When it rains, do you run from doorway to doorway, trying to stay dry, getting wet all the while? Or do you just accept the fact that it's raining and walk with dignity?"

"As children we are taught to fall asleep each night imagining a different way to die."

For me, the similarity is undeniable."


 * I don't deny that there is a similarity. However, we have no way of knowing if the writers of the episode created that passage for the episode themselves or borrowed it from the work you mention. It may be likely, but we don't know.  That's why we need evidence. 31dot (talk) 01:28, April 15, 2013 (UTC)


 * PS- please sign your talk page posts by typing ~ at the end, or click the Signature button located above where you type your post(it should look like a scribble). 31dot (talk) 01:29, April 15, 2013 (UTC)