File talk:Aeroshuttle, three-quarter view.jpg

Before we have all over again, let me answer what everyone seeing this image is probably asking: Yes, Paramount owns the rights to this image, and yes, it can be used for non-commercial purposes. --Alan 21:09, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I hate to be a stick in the mud, but where is the proof that Paramount owns the rights? --OuroborosCobra talk 21:10, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Le sigh. Well, you certainly know your place. Short answer, because I know so. Long answer, Bonchune built it for Paramount, as a result of their agreement (and whatnot), the rights of all designs created for Paramount are retained by Paramount, and redistribution is allowed as long as the image is used for "non-commercial purposes", hence: image paramount...hence: image paramount...hence: image paramount. And it appears my needle is skipping again...besides, who else would own the rights...Paramount? --Alan 21:24, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
 * In all of our previous discussions, we seemed to feel it was not "fair use" to have this image. Slapping a template on something doesn't make it so, and neither does just coming here and saying "because I know so". You would never accept an answer like that from someone else (rightfully so), so why the hell would you use it yourself? What has changed from the last two times this has been deleted? --OuroborosCobra talk 04:03, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

Why would I use "because I know so"? Well, evidently you missed the long answer, as your response seems to be more focused on the short answer, which tells me you are under the false impression that I am guessing about the use of such things, but then again, if I were guessing, I would not have posted it, and we'd not be having this endless discussion. What has changed from the last time this was deleted? Simple: No one actually asked any sources. It was all assumed, based on lack of information. This image, and the others like it, were created for use in Star Trek, and therefore Paramount owns the rights. There is no single individual to ask for "permission", per se, to post these, just as there is no single individual to ask for "permission" to post this image, or screenshots of production art, or for that matter, everyday screencaps. I know this how? I asked someone directly, who knows about such things, who may or may not be mentioned on an attached page, who to told me the very thing I posted in my initial post. Since I now have acquired the necessary "facts" that were previously lacking, I have so acted accordingly. And here were are. --Alan 08:38, 24 May 2007 (UTC)